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Egyptian PM: Dam negotiations with Ethiopia are 'not over'

Talks between Ethiopia, Egypt and Sudan have faced deadlock recently

Ahram Online , Thursday 9 Jan 2014
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File photo: Water gushes out from pipes by the construction of Ethiopia's Great Renaissance Dam in Guba Woreda, some 40 km (25 miles) from Ethiopia's border with Sudan, June 28, 2013 (Photo: Reuters)
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Egyptian Prime Minister Hazem El-Beblawi has stated that the negotiations with Ethiopia over its major hydroelectric dam project, the Grand Renaissance Dam, have not finished, despite recent deadlock.

"No negotiations or talks end in just one session, but some matters are stuck in the middle of those talks," the premier told journalists on Thursday regarding the ongoing negotiations between Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia about the dam.

Egypt and Ethiopia have been at loggerheads over the project on the Blue Nile, a key tributary of the Nile, since 2013, when footage of the construction process was aired on Egyptian television. The Egyptian government believes that the project could affect the amount of water reaching Egypt, which relies on Nile for the vast majority of its potable water. Ethiopia maintains that Egypt's water share will not be negatively affected by the successful completion of the project.

"It is untrue that the Renaissance Dam has become a reality we have to deal with," El-Beblawi said, adding that the project was facing financial and other technical problems.

El-Beblawi’s statements come after similar comments on Wednesday by an Egyptian irrigation ministry official, Khaled Waseef, who also stated that the Ethiopian dam was facing financial and technical problems. According to Waseef, Ethiopian government claims that 30 percent of the dam have been completed are a “media show.”

Egypt, Ethiopia and Sudan have formed a tripartite technical committee to study the possible effects of the dam and try to generate consensus. 

In recent meetings in Khartoum, the tripartite committee was scheduled to formulate a document that entails "confidence building measures" between the countries, and also to form a special international conflict-resolution committee. Both plans failed as Egypt and Ethiopia refused to see eye-to-eye.

 

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Girma
02-02-2014 04:58pm
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Caleb's inferior complexity
Dear Caleb, i am so sorry for such inferiority induced complex feelings.'Keruk zemed yishalal gorebet' it is an amharic proverb noting that 'neighborhood is by far better than kinship that is kept at distance!.... we have no problems with people of Bahire Negash ( our previous colony land,later called Erytheria by Italy)and the Egyptians...But we are Developing, growing and influencing... never stop... Even if the Dam affects the water...till it becomes fair!....
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teshome
21-01-2014 02:35pm
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about GERD
CALEB is an Eritrean who dislikes Ethiopians and dreams a war between Ethiopia and Egypt with your small brain you tell us what you don't know you look like a beggar who stands near people who eat and says the grapes are sour you know something about Ethiopia YOU ARE UN ON LOOKER FULL OF HATRED LEFT BEHIND IN HISTORY
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Behailu Afar
14-01-2014 09:34am
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time to think about fairness !!!
dear Egyptian leaders and people as you know this is 21st century and also time to think about fairness. for years you Egyptian were using the Nile river with out any challenge even though your contribution to the Nile water is negligible. now upstream countries especially Ethiopia which contributes almost 85% to the Nile water is not allowed to use their resources not becouse of the 1929 colonial deal over Nile rather by lack financial resource and by Egyptians restless work on major financial institutions like world bank and IMF not to support any project over Nile. now we Ethiopians are stronger than ever to finance the project over Nile(GERD). It's better to be optimistic. generating power doesn't mean Egyptian will gate water below the amount they need rather it helps Ethiopian change their source of energy from forest to electricity by doing this we can resist climate change effects and we can make the flow Nile sustainable than ever! and Ethiopia and Egypt benefit fairly from the Nile. In other way trying to stop the constraction of GERD by war is impossible. war will not benefit bother Ethiopia and Egypt rather it will cost both. the last thing I would like to deliver is Egyptian medias need to be wise and keeps their professional ethics by delivering information with out molding it and transmit unbiased information and leaders also need to be wise by not bleeding their people for!!!!
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Caleb
13-01-2014 07:09pm
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harmful Ethiopia
Ethiopia likes to hide behind African nationalism, and if you know Ethiopia deeply, you will know how ridiculous this is. Ethiopia is a fake African country ruled by two tribes, the Amhara and Tigray , who look down on Africans. Any African who travels in the countryside of their tribal homelands in the north would be shocked at how much the peasants hate anyone with dark skin and African features-they consider them slaves and demons. But urban Ethiopians are slick and present themselves as Africans so they can use Black Nationalism when it suits them. They also want the money and jobs that comes with having the African Union in Addis Ababa. This is their dirty secret. Egypt has absolutely no problem with any African country except the fake one called Ethiopia, which is dominated by the northern tribes. These tribes always falsely accuse Egypt of using the Nile at the expense of African countries and keeping them poor.. However, this accusation makes no sense because a) only 15% the waters that flow into egypt come from Uganda, Kenya, Congo and Rwanda. Also, if it is true that Egypt is using too much water at the expense of the nile countries, how is it we do not see the level of famine and hunger in the real african countries of Uganda, Kenya, Congo, Rwanda and Burundi as we seee in Ethiopia? How is it that Kenyans, Congolese, Ugandans and so on manage to avoid the chronic food problems of ethiopia? Because their farmers work harder and with more intelligence and cooperation. They use their resources well. As explained before, the poverty of ethiopia is the failings of the ruling tribes of Ethiopia, the amhara and tigray, who between them have created a dysfunctional, highly harmful exploitive economy that povertizes the other tribes while keeping their elite fat. There is tribalism in other parts of Africa as well, but most Africans are not aware that the tribalism in Ethiopia is much worse, hidden, sophisticated and highly structured into the state. The tribal fat cats are the same ones that want to frame an argument against Egypt by completely hiding the fact that Ethiopia is drenched in rain for at least 3 month of the year, has lots of ground water, dozens of rivers and lakes, while Egypt only has one river and no rainfall. These two tribes want to build a huge dam that will completely control the nile flow because they want to povertize Egypt just like they have done to their own people. The dam could have been built at a location and size that would have allowed ethiopia to generate electricity efficiently while allowing the downstream countries to use the water as well. These two tribes, however, do not believe in compromise as they have never compromised in their history when it comes to exploiting and harming OTHERs if it suits them. Read their comments, and observe any one who even has iota of understanding some or even one concern of Egypt. They can't do it. It is impossible for them because sympathy for others is an ALIEN concept. They come from a culture that a man whose stomach is full is a bad man, and must made to be hungry. in their language, a food secure man is called "tegebe", and is considered a threat and evil. So societies that are successful must be demeaned, and Egypt represents a "tegebe" state. That is why when you read their comments, they always talk about starving Egypt just like they have made the Ethiopians they rule hungry. Egptians are absolutely clueless when it comes to understanding the Amhara and Tigray tribes mentality, and can not understand their aggressive and belligerent stand. If you want to see how these dominant Northern tribes people exploit the Southern tribes-who are the real Africans by the way, see this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvVb9EZ6Kqs Rather than working to reform their horrible economy for the good of all Ethiopians, the ruling Amhara/Tigray tribes choose to exploit and povertize their people, and to extend their harm to Egypt!
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Addis
31-01-2014 08:14am
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Poor Caleb
Caleb does not have capacity to understand the Ownership of Nile Water, Goepoletics and the role of Egypt in east Africa.
dokule
26-01-2014 10:57pm
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Nile
Who has exclusive power over Nile River? Nobody. Who can fairly use without causing major damage to the others? All countries that have access to the river.Is that fair in terms of any reasonable standard for Egypt to claim exclusive ownership over the Nile river? No.Does colonial era laws make Ethiopia bound to the terms? Absolutely no. Why? Those laws were made for the interests of British for plantation purpose at the time. At this time British has no legal right to tell Africans what to do with their resource.That is an old history which Ethiopia don’t care about it.Because Ethiopia has been a sovereign country since its inception.If peace is not a solution , does Ethiopia fear of death? No. WhY? Because they are already dying due to unfair usage of river Nile till the present time.So it doesn’t c matter if the choice of war is coming.Are the two countries going to fight? Is that possible? Is that likely? No. Why? Geographically they don’t share borders. It will be a missile based
Meffu
19-01-2014 11:16am
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Why you want to hide the truth behind ethnic poleteics ???
Dear friend ! Ethiopia is now a Big nation with over 80 million Population. We Ethiopian Never been slaves Or colonized by any forces ! Why you want to accept us your 1929 , 1959 Treaty signed by England and Sudan ? Thats why we disrespect and hate any people WHO Tell us to accept colonial agreements and to become Slave to it. We can make a new Route for River nile that it travells the whole Ethiopian dry Region before it leaves our motherland ethiopia! Or you accept our right as a Nation to use our own water resources. You Wan Sabotage Our dam ? We can do that too for your old aswan dam ! It Needs only one Boeing 767 full of explosives and Hit your dam like World Trade Center. But this is not a wise love! You egyptian have to pull off your arab , anti Ethiopian and Bad smelly colonial Treaty Theorie! Now we live 21 St Century! Each upstream Country has the right to use the nile and Change the fate of its own people!
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meskey
12-01-2014 02:39am
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Nile basin agreement
It seems that Egypt is trying reversing the Nile basin agreement through the back door. All the media show is not about this dam but about 8 other countries that have ratified equitable share of the Nile water for common purpose. Egypt things it is only Egypt can drink from the water and the other Africans are Slaves for them and have no right over their own resource. This chauvinistic and racist view Egypt had been apparent for all to see but the world has changed. Africans have now united and they don't take Egypt’s empty bravado seriously. The best way is for Egypt is to come to table and negotiate with the 9 countries that are delivering clean water to Egypt. The win-win situation is for upper Nile countries to use the water for power generation while Egypt and Sudan continue to use and waster the Nile water in wasteful irrigation practices. Anything less than win-win situation is a dream delayed by few centuries. Ethiopia should not negotate with Egypt unless it sign the Nile agreement and ratified it. Nile is not the resource of Egypt but 300,000 million people of the region.
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Jemal
11-01-2014 08:07pm
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Water Management
We Ethiopian we have not yet developed our river for Agriculture. The commentator below called "Caleb" said Ethiopia has "three rains per a year" to please Egyptians. The rains are erratic and reduced in amount due to because of world climate changing. The rain couldn't covered all parts of Ethiopia. More over rains couldn't produce electricity. Egyptian should know where this dam is building no land for irrigable land sinc it is closer too Sudan. The writer mentioned some tribes of Ethiopia as the main problem of Ethiopia. This guy ma need some welfare money or some sort of organization to suck Egyptian money for som mission. To be self sufficient in food,, it doesn't mean to plough every land in Ethiopia. Now day forests that covered Nile Basin is being depleted due to excessive use of the forest for energy source and clearing the land from forest for land to agriculture. This directly or indirectly endanger the rate of flow and the conservation of water in the Nile basin. The best solution for this is transform upper stream countries from entirely from agriculture dependent to industrialization to save the forests and over use of water for energy resource. The best solution is getting electricity from hydrodynamics dam like GERD in Ethiopa. On the other hand Egyptian are mismanaging the Nile river for luxurious things like Golf Course, diverting and rerouting the course of the river into extreme desert land like Sinai, this in turn causes high rate of evaporation. Blue Nile is not the blue nile by itself. There are many tiny rivers coming and joining blue Nile river. Solving the problem of GERD with Ethiopia militarily complicate the situation and pushing Ethiopians to enmity. More over the guy called "Caleb" should know that 99% of the Nile river is originated from those people you hate. Egyptian should sick solution through diplomatically. War couldn't solve
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wubshet seyoum
11-01-2014 01:11pm
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gameover
Egypt has been playing it safe in the past. Game over now. I suggest Ethiopia controls the flow of the NIle including its tributaries.
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Caleb
10-01-2014 11:14pm
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No dam in the world will help Ethiopia out of her poverty, because Ethiopia's poverty is not because of lack of water resources. Ethiopia gets monsoon-like rains 3 months out of the year, June to September. Ethiopia has on one of the most fertile lands in Africa and has DOZENS of rivers and lakes. On the other hand Egypt has barely any rain, and only ONE river in a country that is almost 100% desert. Yet Egypt managed to build an amazing civilization 6 thousand years ago from this ONE river, a civilization that the world is still in awe off . In modern times, Egypt, with the same population as Ethiopia, BUT is able to feed her population. Yet, despite all the water and fertile land, Ethiopia is land of famine and feeding centers, a land completely dependent on the world to feed her citizens,, always begging the west for food. So what do the Ethiopians plan to do? To understand Ethiopia, you have to understand that ethiopia is completely dominated by the miniority tribes of the north-the amhara and tigray. Instead of trying to reform their political system and culture, and properly managing all their other rivers and lakes and ample rainfall, the Ethiopian ruling tribes , ie. the Amhara and Tigray , decided to deny Egypt her ONE and ONLY source of water by building a dam on the blue nile. Why? because these two tribes blame Egypt for their own failures, these failures that are the real root cause of hunger in Ethiopia. They blame Egypt for "stealing their water" as if it was Egyptians who purposefully design and build the river to flow to Egypt? Or was it geography and nature? How is it that all the other nile and african countries don't such as Uganda and Tanzania suffer the same type chronic food shortage as Ethiopia does? Also, what drives the amare/ tigray in their policy to the Nile is a culture of xenophobia and totalitarianism beyond belief. Their political culture is based xenophobia and domination, which is why there are constant rebellions in they country again them by the other oppressed and exploited tribes. They are used to stealing other peoples resources. Ask the other tribes of Ethiopia and they will tell you how the Amara and tigray cooperate to steal their land, their crops, suppress their culture, imprison their youth. Their economic system is a mad one-No one is allowed to own land in Ethiopia-imagine that! only the tigray/amara dominated state does. The economy is based on the state extracting the wealth of the oppressed tribes of the south-coffee, chat, gold, cattle, leather. Their economy is closed and mismanaged, because their ruling party does not want a free economy their tribe can not control. Even the dam is being built on land that was stolen from one of the most oppressed people in Ethiopia in Beni Shangul Gumuz. Yet, with all their stupid economic policies, they still manage to blame Egypt for their failed poverty economy.
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Goshu
31-01-2014 08:20am
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A wolf acting like a sheep
look Caleb are you worried about the Egyptians or you have your won hidden Agenda? I guess you are day dreaming to provoke some sort of misunderstanding between the two countries. the thing is people like you who are "Tuncha ras" can not even convince of anything let alone going to war for a reason that does not exist. in any case why dont you mind your business and try to help your people have electric power which is now lexury of even having once in a week.
Negussie
28-01-2014 03:02pm
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get rid of your hatred Caleb
Your hate of Ethiopians especially Amhara and Tigre has made you to totally ignore the right of Ethiopians to use Nile water fairly and equitably. This type of malicious thought which infects you and your leader Issayas has blocked you to see things positively. I understand why you are saying such rubbish things because you are trying your last resort to wage war against Ethiopia with the support of Egypt. You Know and have already tasted our strong hands once and for all. You are not able to come and confront us again.You should know better the reality and try to amend your mistakes so that the peoples of Ethiopia and Eritrea can live in peace. No one can stop us from Constructing and finalizing OUR DAM..
Abraham, the Ethiopian
12-01-2014 04:38pm
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Let Eritrean stick to their business
Isiase, your PM also believe Ethiopia should let its water leave its territory without beniefiting Ethiopia . You are Eritrean who hate Ethiopia or the great Amahara who defeted the European power,Italy. I know all Africa celebrate the life and achievement of Ethiopia and amahares. Unlike your forefathers who become slave to serve the Italian, the courageous Ethiopians fought the Italians.
LM
12-01-2014 02:34am
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Predictable Response
I don't know if you are a racist Egyptian or a self-loathing black person from Ethiopia. If you are an Ethiopian, you should know that racial politics plays right into the hands of Egyptians who care less about you or your local political grudge match. They want Ethiopians to be divided among themselves. On that note, maybe you should take a second look at how Egyptians are divided and have been slaughtering each other since 2011. You talk about how Egypt has flourished for 6,000 years. Are we talking about the blacks that were there long before the Arabs invaded? What dynastic period are you referring to? Are you talking about the Roman period? Yes, Egypt has developed well, and presumably because of great minds and excellent management of limited resources as you have implied. But apparently, this has been at the expense of the sovereign right of Ethiopia and other black African countries to use their resources. Now, Ethiopia could have left Egypt completely out of the Ente
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Tame
10-01-2014 10:19pm
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Dear PM, please! do not mislead yourself and your own people. You are misunderstanding Ethiopia´s willingness for a dialogue and cooperation among sisterly countries. It is not Ethiopia who has asked a help from Qatar and some other international institutions for financial Problems you are facing in. It is you (Egypt). Please do not waste your time just fooling youself around mean while Ethiopia is doing its best. Remember the words of the late prime minister Meles "Do not try to stop the unstopable". As you have said, Egypt has got so many ways of making the others respect its historical rights, Other countries do have also so many tricks to make Egypt accept, especially the tricks Ethiopia has can make Egypt kneel down infront of it and beg for mecry. So make sure that you make a deal with Ethiopia before it is too late. Because at the end of the day it is Egypt who lose not Ethiopia. Egypt is a great country like Ethiopia. Both have many things in common. The only way forward is cooperation and dialogue. May God Bless Ethiopians and Egyptians.
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dolebet
10-01-2014 10:12pm
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Nile river
Egypt should realize that Africa's awakening they all need there fair share of there water resource. this is 2014 not 1929 Egypt should know .....
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